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US Billionaire and 6 other Americans killed in crash

Discussion in 'Airplane, Aircraft & Jumbo Jet Talk' started by Richard Wyeroski, Jul 5, 2019.

  1. Richard Wyeroski

    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Gold Member I

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  2. Richard Wyeroski

    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Gold Member I

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    No known cause, but one thing is in certain parts of the bahamas fuel should be filtered. Any problems in this area can surly shut down the an engine

    The Aircraft was a helicopter, but the model in unknown........
     
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    Rotorruss Hangar Silver Member IV

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  4. Richard Wyeroski

    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Gold Member I

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    You know, I I was a Billionaire and owned my own private helicopter, I would have two pilots and at least one would be a mechanic that knows the maintenance of the ship.........
     
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    Everett 757 Hangar Silver Member VII

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    Another tragedy............:(
     
  6. Rotorruss

    Rotorruss Hangar Silver Member IV

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    The AW139 is a two pilot ship unless the PIC and the ship is qualified as single pilot. We'll see what the investigation reveals.
     
  7. Richard Wyeroski

    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Gold Member I

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    The FAA data shows only one crew member and 6 passengers.......

    I personally do not like single pilot ops.........like if the pil.ot passes out everyone dies!
     
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    Rotorruss Hangar Silver Member IV

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    Some are authorized single pilot. They have to prove they can fly single pilot for the type ride.
     
  9. Richard Wyeroski

    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Gold Member I

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    A french helicopter
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  10. Richard Wyeroski

    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Gold Member I

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    every pilot makes mistakes and has a bad day. One day it could cause a crash.......
     
  11. Rotorruss

    Rotorruss Hangar Silver Member IV

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    Well another multi engine helicopter. Of course it was part 91 and we all know how the regulator feels about it. I'm sure they will not count it since it didn't happen on US soil. The regulator management needs their bonuses somehow.
     
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    The Bahamian news media were first to report this. First reports stated that 1 of the victims was a flight mechanic. The flight left a heli pad at 2AM without an IFR clearance (Big no-no! No VFR at night in the Bahamas, need permission from Civil Aviation Department before ATC can issue IFR clearance). The copter was found without the floats inflated. Fuel was likely not an issue as Grand Cay has no airport and the flight was not bound for Freeport indicating it had round-trip fuel (1 hour each way). Barring a mechanical defect, I'd look at spatial disorientation. It wouldn't be the first time a trained pilot in an IFR equipped aircraft took off and flew into the water.
     
  13. Richard Wyeroski

    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Gold Member I

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    Yes, just my point everyone has a bad day and the other pilot is there to catch it!

    I was always amazed at a single pilot operator I knew. He was a good guy, but his boss had mental problems IMO. He never had two pilots. The pilot told the Boss that he should consider a co-pilot full time, but instead the boss told the pilot to write down the procedures on how to land the plane in the event he died in the cockpit!.......really he did. The sealed envelope was placed in a convenient location!

    The typical day for this pilot was 16+ hours with numerous landings.....Yep what could happen
     
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    Rotorruss Hangar Silver Member IV

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    I have jumped into the black hole many of times single pilot loaded to the gills on a 16 hour day. It is quite unnerving. This was before the luxury of all the modern equipment they have today.

    This crash just proves that the regulator is a toothless paper tiger. They failed in so many ways. Again certification standards is lacking. All the tools in the world and having an instrument rating doesn't prevent a crash if you can't or don't use the equipment properly.

    The regulator needs to be revamped. They have killed a lot of people with their data driven and compliance philosophy culture. Of course those who's pet projects have been put into place have retired, their legacy should have seen them put in jail for their incompetence.

    Drain the damn Swamp!!!
     
  15. Richard Wyeroski

    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Gold Member I

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    Maybe Poetic justice will catch up with them?

    I always laughed because miss piggy was AFS-1 and afraid to fly!
     
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    I'da had enough fuel on board from the US so they wouldn't need to get any in the Bahamas. Cheaper anyway I'd imagine.
     
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    You'd think a multi-Billionaire would demand the safest version of flight? I wonder if any were wearing life vests and had an inflatable life raft/boat onboard too, which would be a common sense requirement for this open water flight, at least to me it would. Would having a second pilot have exceeded the chopper's weight limit? I doubt it.
     
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    I'll say again, the regulator has failed to do their job. They continue to cater to the manufacturers and sacrifice the flying public. Their data driven machine is a disaster, just like every other pet project they've implemented!!

    Drain the damn Swamp!!!
     
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    This wasn't a commercial flight if I read it right but, 75% of the swamp was drained just getting Trump in office, The rest is happening. Just imagine the other way around! :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: Count our blessings. I know Russ, "God grant me patience, but hurry up about it".
     
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    They forgot to lock the revolving door. The top tiers are career door revolvers. The one for safety that took over for Miss Piggy, is the same one that blessed the 787 and the battery issues. The acting Administrator has deep lobby ties and loves to spew the data driven crap. I ask you, who's overseeing who?? If you let things slide like the regulator is doing, then they shouldn't bitch when the flying public and congress ask questions.

    I know of the pilot. It's all about quality of hours and training. Flying in the traffic pattern for thousands of hours doesn't make the best pilot, but the regulator and congress demands the hours just to get a right seat job. That means we truly have a screwed up regulator system. Those who are inept rule over those who are unable to fight hack.

    Drain the Swamp and lock the revolving door!!
     

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