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The operating cost of various aircraft, CS300,737,757,767,777,747,MD-88,A380, etc.

Discussion in 'Airplane, Aircraft & Jumbo Jet Talk' started by Everett 757, Jan 8, 2019.

  1. Everett 757

    Everett 757 Hangar Silver Member VI

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    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Gold Member I

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    So now we see why airlines want to operate Twin Jets where regulations previously required 4 engine jets for safety. Millions of dollars more in profit. So profit over safety.

    I should point out that when a twin jet is lost because of an engine failure, litigation will cost hundreds of millions of dollars with the loss of 300 souls impacting thousands of people!

    What the hell it would be worth a the risk ......right?o_O
     
  3. Lord Leighton

    Lord Leighton Hangar Gold Member I

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    That's what insurance costs are all about. I wonder if any A/C Insurance company employees fly on Allegiant.
     
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    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Gold Member I

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    :eek:.....no way!!!
     
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    Lord Leighton Hangar Gold Member I

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    Finally, an article that lists the various and relevant costs. Puts things in a more understanding perspective without any political rhetoric.
     
  6. Everett 757

    Everett 757 Hangar Silver Member VI

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    Yes, that’s what I liked about the article. Just plain numbers and facts.
     
  7. Everett 757

    Everett 757 Hangar Silver Member VI

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    There is another interesting article this guy has written about ‘break even load factor’ , which I will post at another time.
     
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    I wonder what Concorde's operating costs were !
     
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  9. Richard Wyeroski

    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Gold Member I

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    Biggles Hangar Bronze Member III

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    Thanks Rich: I should have remembered that site. Although the hourly cost was only slightly higher than subsonic transport, it looks like the seat/mile cost was was altitude related!!!
     
  11. Richard Wyeroski

    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Gold Member I

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    Yes, the 747 could get more then three times as many people to their destination.......
     
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    Biggles Hangar Bronze Member III

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    But what if Concorde made two trips in the same time !!
     
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    Everett 757 Hangar Silver Member VI

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    :D
     
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    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Gold Member I

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    .......good point!......but the fuel?
     
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    Lord Leighton Hangar Gold Member I

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    When we can make a 747 go as fast as the Concorde, we'll be aliens, lol.
     
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    Yep just dry numbers with no spin the twin engine long range win. That's why the airlines are increasing the number of long haul flights with up to 20 hour flight times. As far as load factors, I learned about that in college over 40 years ago my business instructor Prf. Folkman was an ex Delta exec and worked it into the curriculum. Of course we were talking about DC-9's. B727's and airline names like Allegheny, National, TWA and of course Pan Am. Operating costs for the Concorde was always sited as a reason for its limited sales but my first apartment in Starett City in Brooklyn which I took at 24 years old had a balcony that faced JFK and the garbage dump it was built across from was in the landing pattern. Depending on what runways were being used I would sit on my day off and watch the planes land. The Concorde's engines with their unique sound was an easy thing to identify and sometimes I would race out to the balcony just to see that thing of beauty land. Everyone who lived in Starett could identify the sound of the Concorde and would comment or pause to watch the graceful aircraft pass overhead. The last one I saw was an Air France Concorde at the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum near Dulles about 5 years ago. Makes me feel old, I have seen the entire life cycle of an aircraft from taking a picture of a BA Concorde at the gate at JFK on its first flight into JFK to taking a picture of it in a museum. These kids I work with today don't know what they missed.
     
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  17. Richard Wyeroski

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    Yes the Twin Jets are cheaper and will make more profit for airlines on long overwater flights. All airlines around the world are switching pretty fast to them. However, the risk factor is higher and there will be incidents.

    I think if a few go in the water, there will be hell to pay. The risk is there!
    ;)
     

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