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Emery Riddle fatal crash!

Discussion in 'FAA News, Opinion and Articles' started by Richard Wyeroski, Apr 4, 2018.

  1. Richard Wyeroski

    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Gold Member I

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    An FAA Desigated Pilot Examiner DPE and a student pilot flying an Emery Riddle University aircraft were killed when the wing appeared to come off the aircraft?

    A well know aviation university. A modern well cared for aircraft piloted by a student under the supervision of the pilot examiner.

    What could have happened here!!! My God!!...........may they rest in peace

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    Rotorruss Hangar Silver Member III

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    Thank goodness the "regulator" has SAS/SMS to use instead of boots and eyes on the operators and schools. The "regulator" still has blood on their hands with this crash. Tailwinds to the crew!
     
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    Rotorruss Hangar Silver Member III

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    Exuma Guy Hangar Silver Member V

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    To be fair, and looking at the pics, it could have been the horizontal stabilator that fell off.
     
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    Rotorruss Hangar Silver Member III

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    .... looking at this video, it appears to be the wing. The main gear is still attached to it. It's about 1:23 mark in the video.

     
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  10. Richard Wyeroski

    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Gold Member I

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    This was a 15 year old Piper Arrow with 11,000 hours on the airframe. Flight training is a hard life for Aircraft. The Arrow has had a few S/B over the years requiring wing inspections. On the other side of the coin Emery Riddle has a 24 hour maintnenance department and something could have been missed between shifts. It is interesting to note that the attach points and hardware size is no different for larger or smaller Cherokee aircraft and whether the aircraft is retractable or not. The wing spar is the only modification. Constant gear retraction produces a force on the wing. Hard landings and gear extensions over the recommended speeds greatly effect the wing attach points.


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    ... unfortunately, when something is overlooked in maintenance, Murphy's law rears its ugly head. I'm sure that the mechanic was acutely aware of the corrosion and dissimilar metal effects, given the Daytona Beach location. As the airframes get older, the more concerns come up. I seem to remember a well known crash where wiring ignited the center fuel tank and caused an explosive catastrophic failure. Oh, let the conspiracy theories start over that one!!

    "Drain the Damn Swamp"!!
     
  12. Richard Wyeroski

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    .....It is a high profile accident. A terrible loss of life a young boy with his career in front of him. The DPE testing a new CFI candidate. Accidents like this are so sad and are such a loss.

    THe usual investigation will take place and life will go on.
     
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    Unfortunately, this is a true statement. No matter how many FAAST presentations or other programs the "regulator" puts out, crashes will happen. We'll see what type of failure this wing separation is. Was it something that should have been caught or is it the hidden failure? This is truely a sad crash!! Unfortunately, the "regulator" is slow to act on any safety recommendations.

    "Drain the Beaurocratic Swamp" from the top down!!!
     
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    .....Interesting note as the investigation continues. Possible missing hardware that hold the wing on? The wing seperate very clean as though it was not attached, according to a source!

    Too bad if that is so. A maintnenance error that just happened, but now they have to find out how so it will not happen again.
     
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    ...the scarey part is that the maintenance was US based with company mechanics at a top notch school. Could you imagine if this was third party or even third world maintenance?? Maybe the "regulator" needs to adjust the computer algorithms to catch the risk since they are tied to their computers!!

    "Drain the Damn Swamp" and return the "regulator" to "eyes on" safety!!!
     
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    The missing hardware information came out of a shop in Florida. It will be a shame all good people trying to do a job and a maintnenance error causes a horrific crash that will be one for the books!
     
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    ...it may be one for the books, BUT, how's the SMS/SAS working out for everyone? We've seen human fatigue and human factors in maintenance errors for years. The NTSB even had it for one of their most wanted years ago.

    The only thing that should be in the books is, we keep making the same mistakes no matter what we do!!
     
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    It seems like it has alway been that way. The FAA safety programs do little to change the accident rate.
     
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    Did a student from a prior flight have a real rough landing on on wheel, damaging the wing and didn't tell anyone?
     
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    .......Yes.....they don't do hard landings...never!
     

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