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Discussion in 'FAA News, Opinion and Articles' started by Rotorruss, Apr 26, 2019.

  1. Kevin

    Kevin Hangar Bronze Member III

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    So Boeing knew before the Lion Air crash that MCAS was a major change and don't give me the augmentation crap and definitely knew after the Lion Air Crash that swift and decisive action should be taken to correct the issue and also put the most important component in the cockpit, the pilot into the loop. Yet 6 months later history repeats itself. This isn't a lane change departure warning on the side view mirror of your Nissan Rogue this was a major change to a system that dynamically changed the handling characteristics of the aircraft while at the same time keeping the pilot in the dark in the event of an emergency. I said in the past I'm a Boeing guy, my first flight at 14 was on National Airlines Boeing 727 and I had great respect for this company and it's products. Now I feel shame for it and the FAA. It's not only negligent but criminal. Three hundred forty six lives lost that all the committee meetings and CEO statements will never bring back. Shameful.
     
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    Everett 757 Hangar Silver Member VII

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    Well said, Kevin. I’m a Boeing guy too, but this whole thing sure has shaken my confidence in them. It is really sad what has happened to such a great company. In remembering first flights, I remember as a boy flying on what was then Northwest Orient 727s. I have good memories of those days.
     
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    Lord Leighton Hangar Gold Member I

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    I'm a Boeing guy too. My most memorable was flyin back in 1994 on an American Trans Air 727 'Non stop' 'Direct' from Aruba to DTW except they had to make a stop in Charleston S.C. for fuel. We got some extra snacks and free drinks(Back in the day when you could smoke on planes) and after he took off, I could tell the 'pedal was to the metal' and we made it into DTW the exact minute we were scheduled to. That pilot knew his stuff. Nowadays, the $ get in the way of safety. The CEO of Boeing needs to resign and the top heavy FAA idyuts gotta go too.
     
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    Rotorruss Hangar Silver Member IV

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    Everett 757 Hangar Silver Member VII

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    :eek: Every time I read another one of these articles like this, I can only shake my head in puzzlement. When they can’t even replicate a failure like this on a sim, then what good for training is a sim?!?? o_O:confused:
     
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    Rotorruss Hangar Silver Member IV

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    What is wrong with these politicians?? Getting paid to slam pilots??
     
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    Everett 757 Hangar Silver Member VII

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    Wow! That is very interesting. Thanks for posting.
     
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    Rotorruss Hangar Silver Member IV

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    Rotorruss Hangar Silver Member IV

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    Exactly. An inflight birdstrike will not cause the AoA vane to instantaneously go to 85 degrees angle of attack. A byte error from the sensor will cause that.

    Perhaps someone's damage control department floated this out to the public to see if it would pass muster and unload blame from the guilty.
     
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    It’s definitely a trial balloon to see how it plays in public. Someone in the hot seat making a poor attempt to try to deflect blame and criticism.
     
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    That is maddening :mad: and also frightening :eek:. The very people who are SUPPOSED be in the oversight position to make sure the flying public is safe, are trying to silence those good but few that really do care.
     
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    Finally, I was wondering when the Miami Air incident would come up. I f they have over 200 Government Contracts and their where FAA Whistle blowers involved with them again more "shhh don't say anything". I remember the Arrow Air DC-8 which crashed in Gander Newfoundland in 1985 carrying American Troops home from Cairo. There were many controversial theories on that crash Bomb on board, icing and miscalculation of weight and balance or the aircraft was carrying US military ordnance that exploded shortly after take off. I don't know if the Canadian's actually found a "a probable cause" there were two disputed causes sabotage or icing but the result was the dissolving of the Canadian Aviation Safety Board and the cancellation of all military contracts with Arrow Air. Which shutdown in 1987 and rose like a Pheonix with new financing in 1991.Finally called it quits in 2010. I wonder if Miami Air might suffer the same fate.

    The "Bird Strike" theory on the 737MAX incident is a "trial balloon" explanation to divert the public's opinion. So far it seems unsuccessful.
     
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