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BREAKING: Malaysia Airlines 777 Shot Down in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Latest Airline Incidents' started by KennethHolland, Jul 17, 2014.

  1. KennethHolland

    KennethHolland Hangar Silver Member IV Staff Member

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    Just for the record, When I hit the "Like" button, that means that I like the reporting of, NOT the incident. :(
     
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    KennethHolland Hangar Silver Member IV Staff Member

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    Agreed. :(
     
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    I cannot believe this. Again disaster for Malaysia Airlines. I feel so sorry for them
     
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    I do also, although if you watch FR24 or Flight Aware, you notice in the Middle east ALL airlines to routes outside of Israel, AVOID that turmoiled area by a very wide and deliberate margin. Questions are already arising on the news channels on why Malaysian flies through very well known "hot spots". Just a coincidence, today is the anniversary date of the ill fated TWA 800 "shoot down".
     
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    ...something is not right here. Malaysian Airlines again? or is it something else like a bomb timed to go off and blame it on someone......?
     
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    Me too
     
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    There is also word that there might have been 15 - 20 U.S. citizens aboard.
     
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    You're onto something I fear. Has somebody got it in for the airline or are they just having a streak of REALLY BAD luck? One thing for sure, why would anybody in their right mind want to fly an airplane over an area inhabited by trigger happy people. FL330 does not guarantee safety when people have modern weapons, itchy fingers and can be spooked by just about anything.
     
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    The newest videos are showing another large part on fire that crashed way farther away on the horizon from the 1st part. The Russian separatist leader in Donetsk put on the Russian version of Facebook, posted to the Ukraine, "We told you not to fly over this area and the bird is down and we have video". It has since been deleted. Apparently, the separatists thought it was another Antonov 26 cargo plane! Idiots!
     
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    Fuel $ saved is the answer!
     
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    Your right penny wise and life and dollar foolish. Apparently from what I have heard the wreckage is scattered over a radius of 9 miles. Some of the footage shows debris raining down long after the impact of the main part of the wreck. This was also true in the TWA800 crash. If this thing blew at fl330, then it is conceivable that bits could be floating down for hours let alone be caught in the jetstream and carried for miles.
     
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    The "Separatists", (Russian backed rebels) are not allowing any Ukranians to the crash site. I'm sure by order of Pooty Poo, in order to grab the black boxes (they already have them) and shipping them off to Moscow. The world has PROOF of the "separatists" shooting the plane down by a Russian version of Facebook post "We told you not to fly over here, the bird is down and we have video", now deleted, but saved before that deletion. They will deny deny deny regardless. The "separatists" claim that the Russian missiles they have, have only a 13,000 ft alt range but, Eye witnesses leaked that they have seen larger missile apparatus moved into the area yesterday.
     
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    There is further video showing another large smoke cloud miles further on the horizon from the biggest one too. I suspect a missile hit the plane and it separated in mid air without hitting the fuel tanks, therefore exploding when hitting the ground. Unburnt full intact body pics at the scenes prove this. Now Russia is blaming the Ukraine saying that they tried to shoot down "RT" code name for Putin himself. Pure BS.
     
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    ........I do not think Putin is that stupid to shoot down an airliner.....The world will be against Russia if they did it?

    Like i said something does not smell right here.....Malaysian Airlines again???

    Who ever is responsible......will pay the price!
     
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    not that it makes both cases any easier for the families of the victims, thankfully with this case, it looks like the cause is quite clear, with the wreckage (excuse my blunt wording, don't know how else to say it) located straight away. not that malaysia airlines are thinking in business terms right now, but not sure where they go from here.
     
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    Whether or not someone claims responsibility is really moot, the damage has been done. If this was truly a shoot down, anyone boarding an aircraft will suffer some psychological damage this tragedy creates, especially on long haul flights in the far and middle east. The question becomes, just where are you safe? If this was the Russian missile that people are claiming was present in the region, it has the capability of taking out an aircraft up to an altitude of 72,000 ft.
     
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    I was just on Flight Aware and was amazed at how many commercial aircraft appear to be transiting that area. Assuming that its close to real time, it's pretty scary.
     

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