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Airlines blocking last rows on A320neo because of center of gravity issues

Discussion in 'Airplane, Aircraft & Jumbo Jet Talk' started by Everett 757, Sep 17, 2019.

  1. Everett 757

    Everett 757 Hangar Silver Member VII

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    Multiple airlines are now blocking the rear rows of the Airbus A320neo. This is due to an Airworthiness Directive issued by EASA which has limited the aircraft’s center of gravity envelope.
    https://simpleflying.com/a320neo-cabin-rows-blocked/
     
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    Everett 757 Hangar Silver Member VII

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    Another example of unexpected issues that can arise because of engine changes on an older type of airframe.
     
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    Kevin Hangar Bronze Member IV

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    Looks like similar issues of the new engines on the older airframe affects the A320 in a similar way it affects the 737MAX. Their solution is a bit simpler, while costing the airline money no where near what the 737MAX is costing it's owners and Boeing.
    Funny, going back to the days of my business flying I would fly on a regular basis on Command Airways (later American Eagle) on there Shorts SD-330 aircraft from POU-LGA to make my connection at LGA. Although the aircraft cabin could had 30 seats Command would only fly it with no more than 27 passengers. When I asked the F/A once why that was she explained to me it was because of the "weight and balance" which she was surprised I understood. On numerous occasions if their were empty seats further forward, they asked passengers to move forward to the empty seats. Sturdy aircraft although ugly as hell, because of the square fuselage was pretty comfortable for what it was. Just curious about the weight and balance thing.
     
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    Everett 757 Hangar Silver Member VII

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    I’ve had the same experience on CRJ-200s. I’ve been on flights on CRJ-200s that haven’t been filled, and they asked some people to move into the forward seats to help the weight and balance.
     
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    Rotorruss Hangar Silver Member IV

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    But, but, but...it got through certification with seats there:eek::rolleyes:o_O
     
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    Lord Leighton Hangar Gold Member I

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    Just goes to show, Airbus is feelin the consequences of stretching an airframe beyond its original design too? I wonder what they're gonna do with the 321 as well? On the way to FL, the 321 we flew last month on was full, the 321 on the way back was 9 seats empty.
     
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    Lord Leighton Hangar Gold Member I

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    Did that include free drinks? Like the truckin biz of old just before the weigh scales. Bang on the sides so all the canaries inside fly. :p
     
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    Everett 757 Hangar Silver Member VII

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    :D
     
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    Everett 757 Hangar Silver Member VII

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    Yep, the same free drinks that you would get in the back seats of a CRJ-200. Coke and peanuts! :D
     
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    About a year prior to the NEO's introduction, Airbus moved the A-320 aft lavatories into the aft galley (aft of the rear entranceway). Then they added an extra row of seats. This is how the extra 6 passenger seats were installed without shrinking seat pitch. We had to adjust our reservation computer's seat assignment parameters because the empty CG is much farther aft. The NEO's have the same interior, with the same aft empty CG, plus slightly different thrust lines from the bigger fans on the engines. EASA found an anomaly in the laboratory and the airlines are erring on the side of caution. EASA's proactive research kind of makes the FAA look even worse...
     
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    Lord Leighton Hangar Gold Member I

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    Yeah, the FAA's reputation or what's left of it, is second to nothing. Thanks Obozo.
     
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    I had to block a few things when I got stretched too!! My weight and balance was all goofed up!!:rolleyes:
     
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    Rotorruss Hangar Silver Member IV

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    I quit doing coke after 9/11 when they quit allowing razorblades onboard. o_O
     
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    And now straws in CA. :p
     
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