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767 cargo plane down crew killed

Discussion in 'Latest Airline Incidents' started by Richard Wyeroski, Feb 23, 2019.

  1. Richard Wyeroski

    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Gold Member I

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    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Gold Member I

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  3. Richard Wyeroski

    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Gold Member I

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    There has been problems in the past with cargo fires from low cost lithium ion batteries that power all kinds of electronic devices. The flight was lost on radar. Fog was reported in the area earlier

    A shame may they rest in peace
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    Everett 757 Hangar Silver Member VI

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    So sad....:(:(. My heart goes out to their families, and those who would have known them who worked with them.
     
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    Kevin Hangar Bronze Member III

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    It seems that ATC was unaware of any issues with the flight. What ever happened was either quick or the crew was too busy to communicate. Or was it weather related? The lithium ion battery issue is always a concern especially with cargo aircraft. The pictures debris field reminds me of the Valuejet MIA crash. Again a tragic loss of life. My deepest condolences to the crew's families, friends and co-workers.
     
  7. Richard Wyeroski

    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Gold Member I

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    No contact from the crew? It looks like they flew into the ground? Whether was IMC with storms. Could it be they hit a micro burst?
     
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    Everett 757 Hangar Silver Member VI

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    One does wonder what happened so quickly. Some witnesses said they heard the engines surging.
     
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    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Gold Member I

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    The NTSB will use all information they come across to piece together what could have happened. So it could be prevented from happening again.
     
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    Everett 757 Hangar Silver Member VI

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    Yes. It will be a long process to discover the cause. Hopefully it will be discovered so this can be prevented from happening in the future.
     
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    :( RIP. This was tragic for the 3 souls. Kinda lucky I guess, that it had to happen over an unpopulated spot, when ya think about it.
     
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    I understand it was Atlas Air's certificate.
    The third pilot has been identified. He was a Captain for another airline. He was jumpseating.
    Video shows the plane nose straight down as if it had stalled. The wreckage path indicates there wasn't enough altitude to recover. Heavy rain was reported in the area and the crew had requested a deviation.
     
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    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Gold Member I

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    Yes different rules for 121 cargo. Less crew rest and the Feds do little surveillance. I wonder if the FAA knows who actually does the maintenance on Atlas Aircraft.
     
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    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Gold Member I

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    Good point Russ. I wonder if this will mean anything during the investigation.
     
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    Depends on what the probable cause and contributing factors are. If it was weather related, why did the crew press on into hazardous weather? Did the customer pressure the operator to complete the flight as scheduled?? Where was the regulator in it's oversight?? Hiding behind the computer screen again?? Like every other crash, it will all forgotten after a few months.
     
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    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Gold Member I

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    Yes, this is a low level accident, not enough people killed. The aircraft landed in an unpopulated area.

    Will it happen again?
     
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    I hope it won't happen again but I'm reminded of 2013 Crash of the UPS A300 in 2013 at BHM. But that was at a much lower altitude and on approach to the airport. Again the probable cause was again pretty much pilot error along with the lack of good weather information for the crew. This accident indicates a catastrophic failure of some sort. No not enough killed to be remembered. I know the NTSB is a very diligent and capable agency but when the final report is released not many people except the families, Atlas employees and probably Boeing will care. Won't be in the news as usual.
     
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    This is a cut in on a site video by 'Abel Danger' by Field McConnell, an accomplished Vietnam F-4 Phantom vet and a flyer of in the North Dakota ANG, a NWA/Delta 747 pilot (31 yrs) whistle blower who has rather 'unique connections' (President Trump) and to all things truthful, in fact, he dares anyone in the US govt(who doesn't like and wants to silence him) to come after him and even providing his address. They won't dare! :p:D ie: (Malaysia called him in 1 day after the MH-370 'disappearance' for the solution(it wasn't lost). Watch just this section for an informed 'position' on this Houston 767 crash. ;););):cool: ps: He knows ALL about the govt's 'Uninterruptible Autopilot" installed on Boeing aircraft without their knowledge.





    This is Field McConnell doing the worlds lowest altitude inflight refueling:

     
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