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71 dead in Russian airliner crash

Discussion in 'Latest Airline Incidents' started by Richard Wyeroski, Feb 13, 2018.

  1. Richard Wyeroski

    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Gold Member I

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    It seems this is common in Russia. How safe is Russian aviation? Do the officials in charge really care ?

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    Russian Airliner Down Near Moscow


    All 71 People On Board Fatally Injured
    A Russian airliner has gone down near Moscow resulting in the fatal injury of all 71 people on board.

    Reuters reports that the airliner, an AN-148 operated by Saratov Airlines, went down shortly after takeoff from Orsk, which is about 900 miles southeast of Moscow.

    There is very little information to report in this early stage of the investigation. The airplane's cockpit voice and flight data recorders have already been recovered, according to the report. There is also footage from a CCTV camera that was posted online Monday showing what looks like a large ball of fire streaking across the sky.

    The debris field is reportedly more than half a mile long. Officials from Russia's Emergency Situations Ministry said in a meeting broadcast on state TV Monday that it was organizing DNA tests in an effort to identify remains from the fragments of body parts that are being located.

    Authorities says that the plane was manufactured in 2010. It was carrying 65 passengers and six crew.

    (Image from file)

    FMI: Original Report
     
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  2. Richard Wyeroski

    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Gold Member I

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    BTW......terrorism is on the table..! Which leads to the question, how safe is Russian Security at their airports?
     
  3. Exuma Guy

    Exuma Guy Hangar Silver Member V

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    Discrepancies in indicated airspeeds... They stalled it in icing conditions.
     
  4. Lord Leighton

    Lord Leighton Hangar Gold Member I

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    Ice in a pitot tube again?
     
  5. Richard Wyeroski

    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Gold Member I

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    Rotorruss Hangar Silver Member III

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    ...they can teach a monkey to fly, still working on the bear??? Rest in peace comrades.
     
  7. Richard Wyeroski

    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Gold Member I

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    We probably will never know the cause. Russia does not usually cooperate with crash data to the industry......
     
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    Lord Leighton Hangar Gold Member I

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    If you look at the graph's speed variances during the short flight, might someone been fighting in the cockpit? Love to hear the CVR translation on this one. Nyet?
     
  9. Richard Wyeroski

    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Gold Member I

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    Strange......as I said we will never know!
     
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    Rotorruss Hangar Silver Member III

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    ... several reports indicate a faulty sensor and pilot error was reported by the Russians.
     
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    Those variances are too wide to be meaningful. Greater than 50 knot speed increases over a few seconds just doesn't happen without a corresponding drastic altitude change. That doesn't rule out any arguments on the CVR.. Maybe along the lines of "WTF are you doing?"
     
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    Rotorruss Hangar Silver Member III

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  13. Richard Wyeroski

    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Gold Member I

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    I still think we will never know what happened
     
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    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Gold Member I

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    .....so a pitot tube iced up and one airspeed indicator was reading "O" airspeed and there was a differences warning and the autopilot shut down. The pilot took control of the aircraft and the aircraft crashed immediately after that?.........
     
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    The Capt. turning down de-icing before take off was stupid.
     
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    Here is a bit more for the guessing game- I've not any reports about the flap position. It is quite possible that there was a false flap overspeed warning due to one of the faulty airspeed indications. If one of the pilots retracted the flaps due to a false warning, a stall could have been induced. Seen it happen before....
     

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